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Zerstorung
09-21-2010, 01:14 PM
Lets chat about how we can cheese parses here. Obviously, the Dragonblight buff will be used for everything. Are there any fights that we don't care about trying for parses on? Gunship, Valritha, Sindra are the ones that come to my mind.

Initial thoughts:

1) Threat is going to be a problem. I imagine a DK tank would be preferred.
2) Lust timing? I think that raid dps is a legitimate concern here, the quicker the boss dies the higher our MoM uptime. I imagine at the start of every fight to combine with MoM. The only exception I can think of would be Put and perhaps BQL when 4 bites are out.

Tashur
09-22-2010, 03:40 AM
Agreed with everything you've said. On putricide, we should mark the person competing and keep plague off them. (either don't pass it to them, or have someone get it from them)

Stacking is the name of the game. Having MoM+Lust+MI is a start, and then you add in 2 PIs (15s each) during mirror, and 3 glyphed ToTs. Napkin math is that this is all multiplicative, and you end up with like 63% extra damage and 88% faster casts for 300% dps. We'll basically need to be able to pre-arrange a PI+ToT order ahead of time so that we can get 2 PIs and 3 ToTs lined up exactly back to back in that 30s mirror image buff window.

At the end of that, we're really, really likely to have enough threat to pull when MI wears off. If we can call it and get a well timed taunt, great... but we better be ready with invis. (A taunt right before MI ends followed by an invis may be the best plan, since that would give a big enough threat lead that you can probably get away with continuing ToTs in the meantime.)

Innervate(s) to avoid needing evo.

Aside from that, double pot, use flame caps, profit.

There are some fight-specific things to worry about - BQL bites, position on Festergut (and the possible availability of a GS to get through the exhale if you want to iceblock off a vile gas).

I don't see a reason to skip Sindragosa, btw. It's not a great fight to try once only, since you can be completely ruined by bad rng, but if we have permission to detonate a 1-stack in the raid before the first air phase, we can at least guarantee that we get the magic 30 seconds of full debuffs. From there, if the fight goes well, you could nail a parse. (Even without any iceblock-related cheese, which you could use to abuse the meter completely.)

Faerwin
09-22-2010, 07:57 AM
And then you pull aggro and die!

Threat is gonna be a huge issue if we go spellsteal those things, aswell as mana. Whoever is parsing is gonna need a glyphed vigilance and a lot of salvs.

Tashur, you can always detonate one stack in the raid on sindragosa, 1300 damage on everyone isn't gonna kill anyone, even if the 6 persons with unchained magic does it.

The fights where we shouldn't care about spellstealing the buffs are gunship, valithria and lich king.

LK is because we would likely screw up the timing of the shambling horrors deaths. Could be wrong.

alakona
09-25-2010, 01:42 PM
Tashur, you can always detonate one stack in the raid on sindragosa, 1300 damage on everyone isn't gonna kill anyone, even if the 6 persons with unchained magic does it.



well that's not true at all

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/r9ba2hqkfgil6i25/sum/damageDone/?s=9368&e=9681

stacks for mages when we know about it and it's your parse week will be np for sure though.

Kimano
09-25-2010, 08:40 PM
In phase 1, stacks in the raid won't be a huge deal.

In p3, if the healers are behind or if anyone has a lot of Mystic Buffet Stacks, you can easily gib people.