Elemental 3.2 List

[Neokarasu]

Pretty straightforward since there's a HM item for pretty much every slot.

List with newest known items: http://chardev.org/?profile=302311


Helm - Thrall's Helm of Triumph (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48328) (258)
Neck - Cry of the Val'kyr (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47468) (258)
Shoulder - Thrall's Shoulderpads of Triumph (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48330) (258)
Back - Aethas' Intensity (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47551) (272)
Chest - Thrall's Hauberk of Triumph (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48326) (258)
Wrist - Bejeweled Wizard Bracers (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47586) (245)
Hands - Thrall's Gloves of Triumph (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48327) (258)
Waist - Icehowl Cinch (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47921) (245)
Legs - Leggings of the Awakening (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47479) (258)
Feet - Sabatons of Tremoring Earth (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47456) (258)
Ring1 - Circle of the Darkmender (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47439) (258)
Ring2 - Nebula Band (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46046) (226)
Trinket1 - Reign of the Dead (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47477) (258)
Trinket2 - Flare of the Heavens (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45518) (239)
MH - Barb of Tarrasque (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47422) (258)
OH - Bastion of Resolve (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47448) (258)
Totem - Totem of Electrifying Wind (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47666) (245)


Gemming:
Meta: Chaotic Skyflare Diamond (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41285).
Reds: 3x Runed Dragon's Eye (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42144). 7x Runed Delicate Ruby (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40113).
Blues: 2x Glowing Dreadstone (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40132) for Meta. the rest are Runed Delicate Ruby (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40113).
Yellows: 1x Veiled Ametrine (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40153) for hit cap. 7x Reckless Ametrine (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40155) for the rest.

Total Stats (with another source of +46 SP from profession and Tuskar's Vitality (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39006) for Boots):
3043 SP,
1019 Haste (1219 ToEW)
753 Crit
292 Hit

Other Options:

Back: Drake of the Sunreavers (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48666) (258) - Crit/Haste Cloak. because Aethas will be really hard to get. 2nd BiS.
Back: Shroud of Displacement (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47452) (258) - Hit/Haste Cloak. the Hit won't be fully wasted but it won't be fully used either. 3rd BiS.
Wrist: Felspark Bracers (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48000) (245) - Hit/Haste bracers. 2nd BiS.
Wrist: Dark Essence Bindings (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47467) (258) - Hit/Crit Bracers. even though it's higher SP, the Haste on Felspark (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48000) makes it better than this. 3rd BiS.
Waist: Belt of Biting Cold (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47447) (258) - Hit/Crit Belt. same as above.
Waist: Belt of Pale Thorns (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47469) (258) or Belt of the Tenebrous Mist (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47419) (258) - Haste/Spi Belt. possible option if you have a Hit Cloak/Neck/Ring.
Feet: Boots of the Icy Floe (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47482) (258) - Hit/Haste Boots. an option if you're missing a Hit piece (i.e. Bracers/Belt).
Ring: Conductive Seal (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45495) (239) - Haste/Spi Ring. the socket + good amount of Haste on the ring makes it 3rd BiS (yes, over Firestorm (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48001)... I know, Haste scaling is stupid).
Ring: Firestorm Band (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48001) (245) - Hit/Crit Ring. 4th BiS.
Weapon: Suffering's End (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47483) (258) - Crit/Haste Mace. 2nd BiS.
Weapon: Relentless Gladiator's Blade of Celerity (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49191) (258) - Haste/Res Dagger. I didn't even know this existed till yesterday. 3rd BiS.
Trinket: I'm using one Reign trinket for the BiS list. Technically, double Reigns are better but I'm also taking into consideration drop rate and the possibility of a "fix" by Blizzard.

[Neokarasu]

just starting a list now for prospective upgrades:

Waist - Cord of Biting Cold (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47084/) - hit/crit belt. hit will be an iffy slot as 5/5 T9 is soo close to hit cap already.
Back - Cloak of Displacement (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47095/) - hit/haste cloak. see above.
Feet - Boots of Tremoring Earth (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47099/) - YES! finally another (mail) boot with Elemental itemization!
Shield - Bastion of Purity (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47085/) - upgraded Wisdom's Hold.
Trinket - Fetish of Volatile Power (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47879/) - it's an interesting trinket and i'm listing it here just because (i don't think it's an upgrade over Flare or Illustration). 456 Haste for < 8s is pretty meh considering that's being generous with the ramp-up of 1.5s per spell.


the trend seems to be Normal and Hard Modes ("Heroic") will drop items with similar stats except HMs will have an additional socket/stats from the ilv upgrade. Alliance and Horde pieces will have different name/model but the same exact stats.

moar stuff!


Legs - Breeches of the Deepening Void (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47317/) - hit/crit legs.
Legs - Leggings of the Awakening (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47318/) - crit/haste legs. definitely an option over T9 since our T9 has crit/hit. using this will allow us to use 1-2 other hit gear.
Feet - Boots of the Icy Floe (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47321/) - hit/haste boots.
Trinket - Reign of the Dead (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47316/) - another version of Lightning Capacitor. i really like the fact that it gives 150 SP instead of crit.
Weapon - Suffering's End (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47322/) - crit/haste mace.


Elemental T9: Thrall's Regalia (http://db.mmo-champion.com/is/863/thralls-regalia/)

[Neokarasu]

8/07 - Cleaned up and updated OP.

[Neokarasu]

I finally bought the new Triumph Totem (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47666) and I have to say, it is pretty amazing.
it works just like the old Badge Totem (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33506) in the fact that it has no ICD and I'm pretty sure they upped the proc rate. with a normal rotation on a sit-n-nuke fight, it has a 100% uptime so it's pretty much 200 Haste all the time.

updated BiS.

[Neokarasu]

someone pointed out to me that Reign of the Dead (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47316) is, in fact, unique. if Blizzard keeps the same name for items from both HM and normal loot, then that rules out being able to "double stack" trinkets.

that said, 2nd BiS is Flare of the Heavens (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45518).

[Grayson Carlyle]

Yah, it looks like trinkets can't be double-stacked, check out the advanced "Unique" properties that the mmo-champ DB has: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47303/deaths-choice/

[Streamer]

Does a flat 200 bring you to actually cast a 6th LB in rotation or do you have to have a little more haste to squeeze a 6th LB in.

[Neokarasu]

you need 1269 Haste + raid buffs to fit 6 LB in 8 seconds.

[Streamer]

Yea thats what I thought so if you stuck in a rotation what exactly is the benefit of the extra 200 if your forced into a cool down based rotation?

[rava]

18 sockets would allow you to make up the necessary haste with plenty to spare. However, I have no idea if it's actually superior to the 441 lb/276 fs/lvb damage because I've never bothered with elemental theorycraft!

[Neokarasu]

well, 2 things:

1. it's not as cool-down based as you think. right now the difference b/w LB and LvB DPS is not that big, so casting an extra LB instead of waiting the 0.x seconds on LvB CD is higher DPS overall.

2. not a lot of fights are Patchwerk. there's no "haste cap" for Elemental (other than GCD cap of course) and obv, higher haste = more casts between movements.

as an addendum to #1, I haven't really calculated the value Glyph of Lava or the 4-pc bonus yet and that does play a role in increasing LvB DPS. however, #2 is still valid regardless so that's why I'm saying ToEW is BiS.

[mushee]

you can get 1269 haste easy imo :p haste >> crit also! i can get 1130~ (putting a few new gems in) but can get to 40% without ret/moonkin haste.

[Neokarasu]

9/24: edited OP
changed BiS Belt to Icehowl Cinch (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47921).
changed BiS Wrist to Felspark Bracers (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48000).
re-did gemming to reflect higher Haste EP value.

[Neokarasu]

Since most people will only see 1 piece of 258 T9, that changes the setup somewhat as the jump from 245 -> 258 is about 16 hit per piece. to accomodate for this change, Barb of Tarrasque (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47422) becomes BiS weapon and turns the 2 Veiled gems into Reckless.

[thesheik]

for players without access to 258 tier

if they take Barb as their mainhand, they should be able to drop Felspark Bracers for Bejewled Wizard's as a solid upgrade. (may need a hit ring, I haven't done the math out).

Also why the choice of the mp5 ring as BiS. wouldn't something like Heroic Firestorm Band offer better optimization and allow you to take bejewled bracers, or if the ~15ish spell power difference really significantly higher than the added haste from the bracers. Imo could make that switch and drop a reckless gem for another runed.

This is all paper napkin theorycrafting on my part, I'm waiting for my next class to start, just mainly curious why the choice of bracers when most Rawr/Seic programs point to Bejewled

[Neokarasu]

Barb is a given without 258 tiers (here's a profile (http://chardev.org/?profile=302250) with only 245 tiers). With it, you still need the hit from Felspark (or Firestorm). Now, comparing the wrist/ring slots gives you:

Felspark (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48000) (+Reckless) vs Bejeweled (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47586) (+Runed):
+33 Hit
+16 Haste
-11 SP
-38 Crit

Darkmender (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47224) (+Reckless) vs Firestorm (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48001) (+Runed)
+59 Haste
-56 Hit
-33 Crit

So if you choose to use Firestorm + Bejeweled option, you will gain:
+23 Hit
+71 Crit
+11 SP
at the cost of:
-75 Haste

It might not seem bad except for two things:
1. You would already be hit capped with Felspark, so the additional Hit from Firestorm is more or less useless. and
2. DEP for Haste = DEP for SP = 2x DEP for Crit. So essentially, you're using a lower DEP setup by 68 DEP because you're using a Crit ring over a Haste ring.

[Neokarasu]

I messed up my Math (or more precisely, my typing numbers in skill) on Excel.
Using Suffering's End + 2 Veiled doesn't get you to hit cap so it's better to replace it with Barb + 2 Reckless.

New BiS profile: http://chardev.org/?profile=302311
(basically replacing Felspark with Bejeweled for cheapest way to drop Hit)
Final stats (assuming Aethas (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47551))
3043 SP
1019 Haste
753 Crit
292 Hit